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by JBlue42
2017-11-27
Just a note for OP or others reading that "Bogleheads" are those that follow a certain value investing philosophy from Vanguard founder John Bogle.

For some basic investment literacy, it would not hurt to read "The Bogleheads' Guide to Investing" (https://www.amazon.com/Bogleheads-Guide-Investing-Taylor-Lar...). I've also heard good things about John Bogle's "Little Book of Common Sense Investing" but haven't read it.


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by nugget
2016-07-09
You think there's a wizard behind the curtain but there isn't. Some counterpoints from my own experiences as a once broke, now financially successful entrepreneur:

<< The wealthy usually have an (often inherited) network of financial advisors, people investing their money, and lawyers, all of whom stand between them and bad decisions >>

More often than not these advisors and lawyers are experts at extracting outrageous annual fees in return for mediocre advice. All you need is a Fidelity account and a few index funds. If you read this book (https://www.amazon.com/Bogleheads-Guide-Investing-Taylor-Lar...) then you will be a more successful investor than the majority of wealthy white collar professionals.

<< The wealthy are typically surrounded by a culture that has always been rich, so has always been able to afford universities and good health, and so can afford to value these highly >>

Thanks to the point above, wealth (with rare exceptions) doesn't survive more than one or two generations, which would present some headwind to this second argument. I spent my childhood split between Manhattan and San Diego. Most of my friends from Manhattan are the descedants of Jews who emigated either immediately before or immediately after the holocaust, very few with any substantial assets. If by rich culture you mean a focus on education, ambition, and professional achievement, then yes, I agree with you. Most of my friends who lived in California had parents who moved there from the midwest in the 60s and 70s and struck it rich as the state was developing, and so much money was made over the next few decades that it didn't seem to matter how much you started with.

<< The wealthy are usually surrounded by other wealthy people, who are not usually expecting (justly or not) financial favors (e.g. a brother who needs medical debt paid off) >>

A wealthy social circle can trap you into a lifestyle that is extremely expensive to maintain. Only my wealthy friends call and invite me on trips that cost $10k+ per person or to fundraising dinners at several thousand dollars a plate. My ''median income'' friends are ecstatic if I pick up a couple hundred dollar bar tab. Assuming you don't allow your family to blatantly take advantage of your wealth to fuel their unnecessary consuming spending, I actually think blue collar millionaires have it ''easier'' here.

<< The psychological difference between growing up rich or working for a high salary, versus a sudden unexpected windfall our of the blue, must be immense. >>

Here I agree with you 100%. Easy come, easy go. It's hard to appreciate what you didn't work really hard for. I see this attitude among lottery winners and heirs alike.


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by kdamken
2016-04-19
I'd recommend http://www.amazon.com/Bogleheads-Guide-Investing-Taylor-Lari...

I've recently been trying to learn more about investing and this book has been right on the money.

Basically, the advice is don't buy individual stocks, you can't pick them and outperform the market consistently. Instead, get an index fund or ETF that tracks the whole market, like https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0085&.... Vanguard is the best for index funds as they have the cheapest expense ratios.

If you want to learn more about the basics of economics, which are important as well, I've enjoyed this lighthearted youtube series - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8dPuuaLjXtPNZwz5_o_5...


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by mrkurt
2011-02-09
That reminds me! Anyone who cares should read the Bogleheads Guide to Investing: http://www.amazon.com/Bogleheads-Guide-Investing-Taylor-Lari...

It's a quick read and probably tells you a lot of what you already know, but it's well written and explains the basics of the various investment vehicles well.


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