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crusso · 2012-07-13 · Original thread
Can we support 100 EMs? Would we run out of things to do?

YES!, NO!

I'd love to see millions of Elons in the world, all pursuing the coolest most innovative solutions to society's problems. America proved that societal success isn't a zero sum game. The more people participating, the larger the overall pie of success gets.

Maybe all we need (can sustain) is a handful like him and the wealth they create will make all our lives markedly better, without us personally being involved ab initio?

No.

That's all we need is to put a few "masterminds" in control of everything so they can plan out our perfect little lives. Did you have some sort of test so that only the more ethical, intelligent, and successful few achieve those positions of power over us?

The question you're asking is really a version of an old one: "What form of power structure in society works better; bottom up or top down?"

Mark Levin has a decent read on the subject that goes into the history of the philosophy of Liberty vs Utopianism. http://www.amazon.com/Ameritopia-Unmaking-Mark-R-Levin/dp/14...

crusso · 2012-05-18 · Original thread
Brilliantly said, Sir Gormo.

For anyone who really has no idea what Gormo is expressing opposition to here but is truly open to at least understanding "the other side" -- might I suggest borrowing a copy of Ameritopia[1] by Mark Levin from the library? Mr. Levin attempts to go through some of the philosophical history of the debate between those advocating top-down "Utopian" solutions vs those advocating bottom-up "Individualistic" solutions.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/Ameritopia-Unmaking-Mark-R-Levin/dp/14...

It can be a little dry and the author never apologizes or backs away from which side of the debate he believes is right; but he does make a solid attempt to get at the root of this whole contention.

All this talk of taxing the rich and the various wars on women, college loan recipients, etc... is really just a distraction or at best a side-effect of the real issue of the Individual vs the State.

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