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DanBC · 2018-09-04 · Original thread
Bomber Command by Max Hastings. This book explained the change in Allies attitudes around bombing during WWII from "only barbarians bomb civillians" to the mass fire bombing of heavily populated cities. It was also eye-opening to read about the massive death rate in bomber command. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bomber-Command-Pan-Military-Classic...

The Art of Electronics, and especially the student manual that accompanies it. I read these a long time ago, and at the time it was a pretty good introductionto electronics, especially if you bought some cheap second hand test equipment and had a few breadboards and components to do the lab work. I'm not sure if it's aged well. There are a bunch of people on HN who still do electronic work who could recommend better newer books.

DanBC · 2017-03-28 · Original thread
A good book about the British Bomber Command is Bomber Command by Max Hastings.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bomber-Command-Pan-Military-Classic...

https://www.amazon.com/Bomber-Command-Zenith-Military-Classi...

The book talks about the change in tactics. At the beginning of the war targeting civilian areas was clearly a war crime; by the end of the war we had things like Dresden.

> And because it had led the AAF to organize its raids during the day, when its bombers were easy for German fighter pilots to find and shoot down, casualties in the bomber force during 1942 and 1943 were shockingly high; in one raid alone, the October 14, 1943 attack on the ball-bearing plants at Schweinfurt (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Raid_on_Schweinfurt), 26% of the attacking bombers were shot down.

Most people don't understand just how high the casuality rates were. The RAF bomber command lost about 55,000 men of 125,000 total.

DanBC · 2016-11-17 · Original thread
It's really interesting to read the history of Bomber Command.

Max Hastings has a good book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bomber-Command-Pan-Military-Classic...

I mention it because the book talks about the problem they had with targeting, and refinements they made.

It also talks about the change in attitudes about targeting civilians, from being a war crime that must be avoided at the beginning, to being the only thing that could stop the war at the end.

DanBC · 2015-03-09 · Original thread
Some of the English pilots involved regard the fire-bombing of Germany as a war crime. Indeed, one of the reasons it wasn't a war crime is because it no-one thought a country would bomb civilians and so "don't target civilians" didn't get written into any treaties.

The change in attitude throughout the war, starting from a position of "do not bomb civilians" and ending with "fire bomb civilian populations to kill as many civilians as possible, in a probably horrible way" is covered nicely in Max Hastings' book "Bomber Command".

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bomber-Command-Pan-Military-Classics...

http://www.amazon.com/Bomber-Command-A-Touchstone-book/dp/06...

(Why are US book covers so weird?!)

Wikipedia has a tl;dr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Bomber_Command

English Bomber Command suffered heavy losses. About 55,000 aircrew died, of a total about about 125,000 men. (That's around a 44% death rate, which is uncomfortably close to a coin-toss.)

DanBC · 2014-02-21 · Original thread
I much prefer the murder of limited numbers innocent civilians with drones (which is usually a mistake) to the mass murder of innocent civilians by "Shock and Awe" tactics and cluster bombing. Making cluster-bomblets the same colour as air-dropped food-aid packs was a particularly cruel accident.

With bombing someone is making the choice to kill civilians. At least with drones they're trying (perhaps not hard enough) to avoid killing civilians.

The book "Bomber Command" (Max Hastings) talks a little bit about the changing policy in WWII from "Do not kill civilians" to "Let's carry out horrific firebombing of German cities". (Also the death rate of bomber crews was shockingly low.)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bomber-Command-Pan-Military-Classics...

(Wait what? Is that a referral link? I don't think I have any kind of referral stuff set up with amazon?)

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