Found in 2 comments on Hacker News
guiambros · 2022-06-16 · Original thread
> And it doesn't have to be someone's fault or society's fault. It just is.

I really have a problem with this line of thinking. It puts the blame on women for "not being interested in tech", and gives all the tech bros a free pass for their atrocious behaviors, and the toxic culture in tech.

If you never heard countless stories of abuses suffered by women in tech, including microaggressions, being talked over in meetings, passed over on promotions, pay inequality, company parties at the strip club, sexual harassment, conscious and unconscious biases, "you should smile more", etc, you're not looking hard enough.

Rinse and repeat this over 4+ decades, and you get your "1 in 25" ratio. Unfortunately the situation is so bad today that it will take a few decades to fix the systemic issues, before we start to see a better balance. But the first step is to recognize we have a problem.

If you're interested, there's many books and serious research in this area, but one I really liked is Brotopia, by Emily Chang. When you know what to look for, it's hard to unsee.


guiambros · 2018-08-29 · Original thread
> the facts are that 1000 people (0.000003% of the population) are killed by police annually. 24% of those killed are black

Per 2016 US Census [1]:

   > Black or African American = 40,241,818 (12.6%)
Now compare with the number of people killed by the police in 2017 by race [2]. The math is left as an exercise for the reader...

If you really believe that under-represented minorities are not at a major disadvantage in our society, facing multiple layers of explicit and implicit discrimination against them, then, in my opinion, you're part of the problem.

> the lack of female representation in tech...

Likewise, if you took the pseudo-science [3] by disgruntled engineers for granted, and believe that the lack of female representation in tech is due to some ridiculous genetic predisposition, ignoring 50+ years of biases and stereotypes, on top of open sexual and moral harassment, then you're part of the reason for the divide. It's exactly this kind of thinking that creates gender stereotyping and legitimizes the systemic sexism in our industry.

If you're interested in understanding more about the true root causes of our gender disparity, a good initial read is "Brotopia: Breaking Up the Boys' Club of Silicon Valley", by the amazing Emily Chang [4]. No pseudo-science required.





Fresh book recommendations delivered straight to your inbox every Thursday.