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zephyrfalcon · 2018-10-01 · Original thread
I don't think the number of tutorials matters, otherwise Haskell monads would be super easy to learn. ;-)

Python circa 2000 was a language that was easy to learn. [1] What you saw was basically what you got. Python in 2018... well... it has grown lots more features, which might not show up in tutorials but a beginner will see them as soon as they look at actual code. List comprehensions, generators, context managers, metaclasses, async/await, decorators, 2/3 split, ABCs, etc. Useful? Yes. Easy to learn or understand for a newbie? Maybe not so much.

Never mind that setting up an environment is no longer as easy as creating a 'lib' directory somewhere in $PYTHONPATH and unzipping files in there. Now we have many package managers, virtual environments, competing Python versions, you name it. Back in the day I started a Python "project" with a single file and worked from there, growing as necessary. Nowadays I see new projects with a dozen files and directories. Again, there are (presumably) reasons for all this, but easier it certainly is not.

[1] Although even then the "Programming Python" book was like 900 pages...

Anyone have experience with either of these books

Programming Python


Learning Python

Not sure where I fall with these books in terms of skill and knowledge. Looking through the table of contents for Learning Python I recognize everything and know what they are, but don't have a great masterful grasp of most of the stuff but I am afraid too much of it will be stuff I already know. On the flip side, Programming Python might be too advanced for me.

EDIT Seems Programming Python is mainly geared towards Python 3.x but I'm still using 2.6.

bootload · 2012-03-15 · Original thread
here's my list. I've read/purchased each of the following. Without buying a thing:

Tute: LPTHW by @zedshaw

Tute: Official Python


and if you must have a book (tutorial) buy @zedshaw "Learn Python the Hardway" or "Learning Python, 3rd Edition" (pink mouse) by Mark Lultz ~ For (reference) get Programming Python (pink python) also by Mark Lutz ~

kaens · 2008-11-27 · Original thread
I used the python tutorial and library reference in addition to "Python in a Nutshell" ( )

With a healthy amount of coding, I've gotten very comfortable with python, although I still feel like I'm not quite utilizing it idiomatically. As such, I've been going through Programming Python ( ) - which is very well written, IMO - as well as reading a healthy amount of other people's source code, notably CherryPy ( ), since I use it a lot.

If you're experienced with other languages, I'd suggest implementing something like a tetris clone as an exercise in learning the language. If you're only experienced with web-dev (as is often the case these days), I'd recommend implementing a few small web-apps with CherryPy - it's the most "pythonic" "web framework" I've seen so far.

Oh, and keeping an eye on the mailing lists ( ), particularly python-list, python-ideas, python-dev, and python-3000, can be very enlightening.

bootload · 2008-03-23 · Original thread
"... Where should i start. I interested in making a new application client. Thoughts? ..."

To learn how email was invented


To get an idea of how the specifications started


and how they are now interpreted


and to program a simple client in python read the source code from Programming Python by Mark Lutz ~ I mention Python & Lutz specifically because they are covered in detail as a CLI then GUI app in "Programming Python Ed3", pp 766 - 911 ~ You can download the source examples here ~

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