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EGreg · 2023-07-10 · Original thread
> Where and what?

Romania: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nato-shield-idINKCN0Y30JX

(Undermines at the very least the treaty that Russia and USA had about not building nuclear interception defenses, in order to preserve the mutually assured destruction deterrent. At the worst, it can be quickly converted to an offensive site to launch rockets from. We wouldn’t allow Iran to build “defensive” nuclear installations, would we? I wonder why can’t we just trust Iran like Russia is being asked to trust NATO. In fact, the official line is that this installation in Romania had nothing to do with Russia at all… it was to counter a threat to Europe from… Iran! Yes the same Iran that had negotiated a deal with the US that the US broke right around that time.)

Poland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_missile_defense_...

> What can be retrofitted to launch what nukes?

What nukes? That’s a strange question. Are you asking in good faith? You’re asking me to tell you which specific nukes? Can you tell me what the choices are here? Is there a kind of nuke that is acceptable to host at the missile “defense” site?

The transparent trick is to call it “purely defensive” and have an army of patriots unquestioningly parrot the exact line, “purely defensive”, “Russia has nothing to worry about, on the contrary, they are the aggressor”. Very standard stuff every country always says (and usually is totally false)

https://www.rferl.org/amp/nato-shows-off-missile-base-in-rom...

Experts admit that it is fairly easy to turn them into offensive sites into Russia, quote: Abraham Denmark, director of the Asia program at the Wilson Center and a former Pentagon official, said the two facilities “could fairly readily be turned” from defensive posture against Iranian ballistic missiles threatening Europe to an offensive capability targeting Russia. This would be a “direct threat” contention the Kremlin has said violated the existing treaty and was the American goal from that start in deploying the missiles, radars and fire control systems so close to its borders.

https://news.usni.org/2018/10/31/aegis-ashore-new-role-post-...

I would wager none of that makes even a modicum of impact on you, and you have nothing to say about it, so let’s move on

“But Russia has a seemingly uncontrollable need to invade former soviet states”

USA has long since invaded, stolen, annexed and subjugated all the lands around it (manifest destiny). It has long ago staked its claim on the entire hemisphere as its protectorate, explicitly foreign foreign powers cannot come and meddle there (Monroe doctrine). It has since then gone around the world and did that same exact type of meddling — with disastrous results — in pretty much every country on earth! We have 800 bases around the world, which is 30x more than the rest of the world combined. We spend more on the military than the next 10 countries, including our own allies. It is a real problem that US Americans seem to only focus on other countries and call them out for the very things that their own country has done and is currently doing, while insisting they have nothing to worry about and if they respond in ANY WAY they’re the aggressor!!

Nations need protection from the US, which is the only country on earth today that conducts drone strikes in multiple far-away sovereign countries, blowing up weddings, funds rebels and destabilizes countries on a mass scale, does regime change in dozens of countries around the world, sometimes leaving the country devastated (Iraq, Libya) and bouncing to the next.

And of course US has economic hit men who come first (Guatemala, Iran, Chile, etc) and if the people elect a socialist or someone nationalizes resources the CIA and MI6 foment a revolution and take them out. We later put them in massive debt and offer our IMF and World Bank loans, as well as our corporations to own and make use of exporting the best resources. It’s standard practice:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_H...

BlackRock is doing it in Ukraine — it’s not just a bonanza for weapons contractors but also US conglomerates, watch this short video:

https://fb.watch/lHuKHbM_fW/

If the concern is a rogue state that is belligerent on the world stage, then countries should start banding together to defend themslves from the USA.

https://www.amazon.com/Rogue-State-Guide-Worlds-Superpower/d...

And they are:

https://www.arabnews.com/node/2127586/amp

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