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JohnBooty · 2021-06-02 · Original thread

    If you think this hobby is about the most precise 
    listening experience you would be wrong in my eyes. 
    It's more about the presence/power you get from a system
    that can saturate a 20A circuit with transients. 
Both things are true and the best systems nail both.

The research done by Floyd Toole and Sean Olive and others tells us that all other things being equal, listeners prefer speakers that accurately reproduce the input signal.

But, I also agree 100% that gobs of power and accurate reproduction of those transients is also key to listener enjoyment and that this is something that is currently (no pun intended) undervalued by the objective audiophile world.

In a modestly sized room one can have their cake and eat it too, with regards to studio monitors. My den music room is about 200 ft^2 / 19 m^2. In this room I have studio monitors crossed over to a pair of subwoofers and it's able to push some very satisfying output levels.

apecat · 2019-08-01 · Original thread
I'm glad you asked, and ideas are welcome! I'm not an audio pro and I suck at physics.

I'm at work but I fired up Skitch and made this ridiculous little drawing, which should explain the situation somewhat.

Basically, we're using the corner of the L-shaped kitchen+living room space to our advantage by moving the couch a bit and pointing the speakers there. The sub sounds super clean anywhere near the convex corner with the fireplace.

I find that the biggest challenge is the stereo sweet spot, which always is going to be annoyingly garbage and narrow with two-channel stereo. The subtle room reflections help a bit, and we rotate seating to make it a bit more fair.

I read renowned Harman researcher Floyd E. Toole's 'Sound Reproduction: The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms' and he seems to agree that there's not a whole lot that can be done about two-channel stereo. In fact, Toole rants in favor of three front channels quite a lot, and well as mocking audiophiles who think their rooms are going to be likely to not need basic tone controls on reproduction gear.

But back to business, with this nice house we don't really need to do much. The log walls absorb a lot, while leaving a nice little lively touch that makes it not feel like a padded room (one of my friends had a padded room before for music, and I've decided I definitely prefer a room that feels a little bit alive).

My friend has this DSpeaker Anti-Mode 2.0 for room correction

The same friend has two Genelec 8330A active speakers that could do room correction on their own

Then we have a previous model of the Genelec F One form factor subwoofer, I can't remember the model number, which is alphabet soup, even though it's connected to my system at home.

The Genelecs are both compact, durable and easy to transport, and we have telecope model stands for them. They have a super nice mid range for guitar and the human voice, and they're also quite nice to look at.

When we set up the space, we basically let the DSpeaker box do its frequency swipes for ten minutes or so. We'd be fine without it even, but it just clears up the bass so nicely.

davidrhunt · 2017-06-16 · Original thread
> I strongly recommend you pick up the book Dr Toole wrote for a non technical audience:

I second this recommendation. Chapter Two of Dr. Toole's book is titled "Preserving the Art" and directly addresses the concerns you're raising. He uses a great quote at the end of this chapter:

"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted". - Einstein

Dr. Toole then spends 500 pages addressing how you can correlate objective and subjective evaluation of loudspeakers. It's a great read.

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