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fudgepack991 · 2017-02-05 · Original thread
Sorry to tell ya but it's all to protect corporations should the people stop believing free market fairy tales and figure out the upper class is their true enemy.

Here's a speech from national security advisory of the united states about his worries about the peoples of the world waking up politically. That's why the spying is pervasive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/fi...

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

http://trilateral.org/download/doc/crisis_of_democracy.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Democracy-Governability-Democra...

Umn44 · 2016-03-15 · Original thread
"It's so disappointing to me to hear a quote like that from the President."

Then you need to get informed how democracy works...

Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. AKA we can be manipulated to believe things against our interest. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

http://trilateral.org/download/doc/crisis_of_democracy.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Democracy-Governability-Democra...

Democracy Inc.

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverte...

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/fi...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW07021...

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Umn44 · 2016-03-11 · Original thread
"But I'd much rather have this than every other social system, where the sociopaths fuck over the common people unchecked."

You already live in that society, you're just unaware of it.

The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ZyJw_cHJY

Brezinski at a press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIZBCQ79g

Major powers, and imposing control over the awakened masses.

https://youtu.be/4usbR_kKCDs?t=397

Important:

http://williamblum.org/aer/read/137

First, our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. AKA we can be manipulated to believe things against our interest. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

http://trilateral.org/download/doc/crisis_of_democracy.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Democracy-Governability-Democra...

Democracy Inc.

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverte...

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/fi...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW07021...

Manufacturing consent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Umn44 · 2016-03-05 · Original thread
>This seems to hint at the problem. You (the left) conflate freedom and equality

Actually it's because most people are ignorant. AKA we can be manipulated to believe things against our interest. Science on reasoning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

Crisis of democracy

http://trilateral.org/download/doc/crisis_of_democracy.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Democracy-Governability-Democra...

Democracy Inc.

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-Inverte...

Testing theories of representative government

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/fi...

Overthrowing other peoples governments

http://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-people...

Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHj2GaPuEhY#t=349

Energy subsidies

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2015/NEW07021...

Intereference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo&feature=youtu.be...

Manufacturing consent (book)

http://www.amazon.com/Manufacturing-Consent-Political-Econom...

Manufacturing consent(vids):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwU56Rv0OXM

https://vimeo.com/39566117

Umn44 · 2016-02-14 · Original thread
Doubtful. Most aren't informed enough about how capitalist democracy actually works. They show that they don't really understand the history of imperialism, its relation to big corporations and what they do to people who effect 'their' profits and monopoly on government.

See: The Crisis of democracy

"Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role."

http://trilateral.org/download/doc/crisis_of_democracy.pdf

Amazon book - The Crisis of democracy

http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Democracy-Governability-Democra...

Princeton study - Do average citizens have any effect on policy/laws?

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/fi...

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