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jordanbeiber · 2021-03-27 · Original thread
Everyone struggles with big IT projects.

It’s also why Gene Kim & co wrote “The Phoenix Project” [1].

Everyone involved in software-building, non-tech industry should read it.

In the end it’s just lean turned agile software dev. Reduce waste.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

hajhatten · 2021-03-10 · Original thread
I read your comment and halfway through i thought you were gonna bring up the devops book: The Phoenix Project https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...
fossuser · 2020-05-19 · Original thread
If you're interested there are a couple of great books that dig more into this kind of thing.

The Phoenix Project: https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

Its related Dev Ops Handbook: https://www.amazon.com/DevOps-Handbook-World-Class-Reliabili...

SamuelAdams · 2020-01-24 · Original thread
I'm with you on this. I don't understand the HN mentality of "100% performance at all working hours". Many employers do not need you to be highly performant all the time, but they do need you to be available all the time.

I'm also reading the Phoenix Project [1], and there's a worker Brent who knows every system well and can fix any issue. However, he is supposed to be working on the big company project (think like an ERP system). However, he can't get that work done because everyone and their brother keeps asking for a "quick" five minutes of his time, several times a day. All in all, he is not able to get his assigned tasks done because he's so busy with other interruptions.

If that happens then yes, talk to your direct report and come up with a better solution. But you shouldn't need to block out every interruption ever. There are times when it is warranted.

[1]: https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

mihemihe · 2019-12-12 · Original thread
I had a really good time myself reading: The Phoenix Project: A Novel about IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business( https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine... )
thewanisdown · 2019-12-05 · Original thread
Extreme Ownership https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs-eboo...

How to Win Friends and Influence People https://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People-eboo...

The Phoenix Project https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

Don't worry about "tech specific". Core leadership principles are universal. The first two books on the list show the principles, and the mindset you should approach them with to be successful.

The 3rd book will help set the tone for leading in a modern tech environment, and what kind of business decisions you should prioritize.

teachrdan · 2019-08-09 · Original thread
This is a great companion to "The Goal" and "The Phoenix Project," both of which use fictional narratives to illustrate best engineering practices in the context of saving a (fictional) business.

https://www.amazon.com/Goal-Process-Ongoing-Improvement/dp/0...

https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

jeffm3 · 2019-05-26 · Original thread
In 2013 (only 5 years ago!), The Phoenix Project [1] came out. Very interesting to read what has changed since then and how some concepts that were considered new at the time are take for granted. It's a pretty easy read, ideal as an audio book.

[1] https://www.amazon.ca/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busines...

franzwong · 2019-01-11 · Original thread
No matter you want to become a manager or architect, you need to know how to run a project.

The Phoenix Project: A Novel about IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business Win https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

woqe · 2018-04-25 · Original thread
I just finished reading the Phoenix Project, and I wanted to say the beginning of this post read almost exactly like the first 3/4's of the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

joshmarlow · 2018-04-04 · Original thread
You may be interested in "The Phoenix Project" [0] which tries to apply some lessons from factory management to IT organizations.

My biggest take-away (and it's served me well as a team lead) is minimize work in progress (WIP). In practice, that meant encouraging contributors to focus on getting opened PRs reviewed/merged/deployed rather than opening new ones - which has cascading benefits.

A related takeaway is that when resources (engineers, key machines) are planned to be at capacity, they have no slack for dealing with unplanned work, so it's good to plan for resources to be under-utilized at certain times so that they can be more agile.

I've never seen "The Profit" but I'm looking forward to watching it now!

[0] - https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

EDIT: for link to book

Jtsummers · 2017-11-20 · Original thread
That book is next on my reading list, but also worth checking out is "The Phoenix Project". It applies the concepts of "The Goal" to IT (operations to start, but it gets extended to development through the book).

https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

foz · 2017-02-26 · Original thread
"Managing Humans" by Michael Lopp made a huge impression on me and my career. https://www.amazon.com/Managing-Humans-Humorous-Software-Eng...

Also, "The Phoenix Project" which IMO is a groundbreaking work on how to make IT/business more effective (and the start of the DevOps movement). https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

Even if you're not a manager, both books are very approachable and packed with great lessons about how improve and better work with people, teams, and business.

mikevm · 2016-10-03 · Original thread
Gene Kim is also one of the authors of "The Phoenix Project"[0] which is a highly recommended read.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...

fatterego · 2016-07-15 · Original thread
The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim, Kevin Behr, George Spafford - https://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-Project-DevOps-Helping-Busine...
lukev · 2016-01-20 · Original thread
A really great book about this concept, applied specifically to software, is The Phoenix Project (http://www.amazon.com/The-Phoenix-Project-Helping-Business/d...). I recommend it highly.
njones · 2015-06-29 · Original thread
I'd recommend the Phoenix Project - very easy read. http://www.amazon.com/The-Phoenix-Project-Helping-Business/d...

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