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keepamovin · 2023-08-21 · Original thread
Your speedy sub-20 minute reply is commendable, yet it's as if you were sitting on the thread waiting to pounce! Why?

I'm sorry but your "facts" are wrong. Here's how:

- Fugal (a not e), "should not be trusted"? How? Can you point to any clips where he's "promoting his interests" on the show as you claim? How is the show an "embarrassment"? How is it worse than the other one you mention? How is it inspired by that one? Any clips where Fugal pops in to stir drama? Also, you're aware Fugal funds this with his own money, doesn't have a DoD contract, and hasn't taken a dime from the research or the show, right? So, what's your beef with Fugal, again?--did you apply for a research position with him and were rejected?

- Do you have any evidence that Bigelow's contract was both corrupt and initiated by him, contrary to the factual timeline that Bigelow bought the ranch, started research and 6 months later gets a first call from DIA for a collaboration? So you previously worked at Sandia and have the inside track on DoD contracting, is that right? Is this an accurate picture of DoD graft, or the bitterness of a disgruntled former employee? Did they deny your clearance for something and now all stories of UFOs are false? What's the corporation that manages most of the nuclear sites, again?

- So paranormal visitation stories are mostly rumours exaggerated over time to grift? What an abusive statement against thousands of experiencers around the world. Your claim that there was no paranormal activity before Sherman fabricated it while they owned the ranch in the mid 90s is belied by an extensive study of paranormal/UFO events in the Uinta basin (including Skinwalker and surrounding ranches) going back to at least the 1950s, via Salisbury and Hicks^0. Your claim is also made to look foolish by the testimonies and history of the Ute tribe native Americans of the area.

You strike a confident tone, and speak with authority, even passing yourself off as someone with sincere interest, yet you're not in command of the facts here. You present your opinions as absolutes and dismiss the experiences of thousands of people who have experiences.

This behavior is not "harsh" (but fair) as you try to suggest, it's just abusive. You seem to act like those who want to dominate others, but who lack the courage to fight an equal fight, so they come to topics like this because they think they'll find soft targets here, owing to the persistent background of ridicule and harassment of those who are sincerely interested. So such would-be dominators fabricate their views in contradiction to facts, as counterpoints just to create conflict, that they can then use as a pretext to call anyone who pushes back crazy, or a "conspiracy theorist". If this is what you're seeking I strongly encourage you to reconsider this conduct. You won't find what you seek here, and you may soon be in for a rude shock. Wouldn't that be unfortunate?

You speak about this as if you know, but it seems you don't have, or ignore, the facts. Yet seems you've had personal experience with some aspect of this, otherwise why the passion and anecdotes about DoD contracts. An embittered bid loser to do the Skinwalker research perhaps?? I mentioned before you worked at Sandia. Was this kind of bitterness like a professional merit badge there, or just something you adopted at some point? Something that "hitchhiked" on you, maybe?

If you show up in these parts again, I encourage you to engage with this topic in a curious, open-minded and not arrogant way. You have to treat the people here well! Comprende cabron?

0: https://www.amazon.com/Utah-UFO-Display-Scientists-Report/dp...

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